After I do that I then sell those goods to people dying to get alcatraz. also in Colonial Age) and my advice is: Build it at all costs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Double Collection Quest Reward Boost Space (medals) have the next palpable value. Provides an amount of special goods from the players current or previous eras or medals (before reaching Arctic Future). This was the one description I agreed with above. Yikes this is all dated and should not be followed in 2018. Firstly once youve built a GB you wont want to delete it. CdM level 71-73 costs 1256 forge points (you get 87 back from levelling). Bottom line: strongly recommended, and 50% better than the Colosseum, if you have a choice. I don't think it's a good idea to waste 9 spaces just to have a chance of repel the plunderers, but if you have the time, this should be a good pickup. The other penalty of the Tower of Babel is that it makes you poor and unhappy. Still many other variables, that's my experience and what I've learned, it works for my game.. Chance to double collect the first number of buildings collected. Some of these are random numbers without any reasoning. Thank you Agent327, that is exactly what I needed. For the space it takes, Collosseum takes up too much space and costs too many forge points for too little benefit. Given the much bigger cost of the Castel, and much larger size (vs the Statue), this seems underpowered. The Arc's bonus drops off sharply after level 80, so this is a good place to stop and is the standard for calculating any GB's profit zone for donors. Probably not worth it if youre pushed for space. What does this mean? I suspect that the Statue cant really achieve that real value level, so its mostly a decorative / vanity addition to your city, and helpful to those who really enjoy the PvP battles, or want to use those battles to improve their overall game score. This would really be a valuable reference item. IMHO avoid all FPs that give a fixed amount of asset and go for the ones that increase goods and coins by percentages. RAINFOREST ok If this GB was available at a much earlier age it would be really useful. Last, the author simply places too little value on the cost of space; the number one factor in deciding. This GB is so great and so common, it's owned by almost half of my server, including myself. Gives an increased chance of gaining blueprints while aiding. ), which makes sense given that many were at least partially bought with diamonds, and/or require a LOT of investment to complete. I recently built my Observatory, and it took forever to get those 9 blueprints. The payback time is years. This is one of the few Great Buildings I would recommend you to upgrade it past Level 10, as if you upgrade it to Level 100, it provides over 35,000 happiness and 98 unattached units every. Post-Arc80 Level 60-70. Oh yeah, Space Age Asteroid Belt and Space Age Venus' GB's won't be featured, as they are too early to judge as of now. LIGHTHOUSE OF ALEXANDRIA (LoA) Good is the most important GB in early levels it really helps you out and will continue to help for a long time. The Statue gives a unit attack/defence bonus when attacking. You'll get opinions here, so here's mine. Cant understand why people max out GBs giving FPs, as they invest thousands of FPs in these GBs to get 5-8 FPs back. The second benefit is to provide up to 17 random goods daily. You are using an out of date browser. Castel del Monte: underwhelming (ok for PvP). Its not the worst GB, but its close! I currently have 900 million gold and is only going up The guild boost it gives you is only good if youre very into the GvG side of the game and then you will want this GB and will want it levelled up high. Because the benefits you will gain from this Great Building islet's just say not great. It becomes worthless. Again, it will soon be obsolete. Supply Boost Oh myI thought the Space Needle had low ownership rates, but the Lotus Temple is even worse. What do you intend t9 focus on playstyle wise? 1800 diamonds or so). Forge of Empires Alcatraz. Well-Known Member Nov 30, 2021 #2 The average optimal level for nearly all GBs is roughly level 80. many deviations from that. Bottom line: take it for the coin production, or if you are in an aggressive neighbourhood. (Known up to levels where the chance is 70%. This boost doesn't apply on rewards consisting of Forge Points, blueprints, or military units. Since you say you're just working on arc to 80, my advice will keep that in mind and give you some lower breakpoints: CF: 5, 10, or 58+ post-Arc. Early on youre going to need gold and supplies, but dont build a GB to get them EXCEPT the Lighthouse that you can build. Blueprint Boost The % scales well up til level 10 as well though so taking it to 10 before you're ready to do post-10 levels is fine. I just don't see the benefit of taking it higher, the increments it gives for the rather paltry GE rewards aren't worth the FP spend. I hate the clicking so I'll prob stay at 60 for now. Press J to jump to the feed. COLLISIEUM. Even at Level 10, a Lamp Factory from the Progressive Era can produce more supplies in a day than this. The defence boost is the same as provided by Saint Basils (albeit at a much greater expense in goods and space), i.e. And I will end with almost 3 Phantom towers and 4 workshops. VITAL Every high level player has one for the military boost and forge points. The most important function of Great Buildings is the powerful bonuses that increase with the building's level. Ultimately there are better builds for happiness and medals are good, but they arent vital. 90% of the players in the game would agree that attack bonus is the best Great Building bonus, as it can never really lose in value too quickly due to inflation. In that case most of them are bad investments. skuras101 2 yr. ago. Forge Points / Happiness / Goods / Attack & Defense Power / Medals are the pillars of success in FoE. I will also tell you what percentage of people on my server owns that Great Building. For one, at this level, 44 is not a lot of space. Both PvP and peaceful players will like the defense benefit, while the medal benefit is more helpful to peaceful/trader players. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I can literally build any GB i want. And the goods, I mean, it's not the worst, but there is a way better alternative I have built already. Forge of Empires Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Any GB that can boost your Goods, Coins or Supplies production is necessary as well: The Lighthouse, St. Marks, RA Hall, Chateau, Frau, Dynamic Tower. In theory it is accessible very early, and can have a long period of usefulness. Relics appear as standardised icons in various places around the GE map. The forge points may still be very helpful to progress through the enormously long Colonial age technology tree, or the upcoming age of Industry. THIS. Im not sure how Davidb3 figures that the Happiness produced is worthwhile, but his numbers are way off. -ScytheNinjAlin- said: I will end with more than 8.5k at the end and only 6k diamonds spent so far +event pass. The only real use for the Babel is for a diamond production town, where you can reap a crap ton of diamonds from a server, and use it on another server. GvG Support Pool Military Boost It is still hard to figure out the real value of the Statue, but at a guess, Id think it should give a 5% improvement in your weekly medal rewards, and some goods saved. The Lighthouse, for example, produces 12% less goods than St Marks. If you dare to build a Great Building just for some pocket change and happiness, all the while wasting 4000 Forge Points and 30 spaces, then I can assume that you have about as much IQ as a cow. 4 comments. I built the Statue of Zeus only when I got to the Colonial Age, which is wellslow, to say the least. Deal Castle is huge (77=49 squares), providing a defence boost, and medals. Chance to receive a random reward after successfully completing a negotiation. Provides one good of the same age as the building (of a neighbor / friend / guildmate) that you aid, for the first number of buildings aided. I accumulate those goods for about 4 days then start to sell them down the ages (80 arctic future for 136 future, then those 136 future for 231 tomorrow age goods; then those 231 tomorrow age goods for 392 contemporary goods; then trade those for 667 post modern goods; then trade those for 1134 modern goods; then trade those for 1927 progressive goods. It may not display this or other websites correctly. PvP players are going to want to get a full set of this GB, the Statue, and the Cathedral of Aachen. The most important levels on this are the ones where you get an extra charge. The dyna does eventually become Obsolete when you reach the tomorrow age, but until then it is clearly number one. The Goods output (25 goods per day) produces about the same amount as a single regular production building, but without the costs (7680 coins+ supplies each per day, in LMA). Double Plunder And the reason why is simple: It's just a ripoff of the Space Needle. I thought Galata Tower is an event building! c normally refers to coins produced or provided by the GB s normally refers to extra supplies produced by the GB G refers to random goods (of the current age) produced by the GB. Bottom line: definitely worth while, and will quickly pay for itself. Once this is done, a single additional level will be unlocked. So the Lighthouse is better for its size but the coin boost of St Marks is so huge that it makes up for the larger size. You will make a huge investment in FPs in your GBs so making a mistake early on will be costly. GBs are crucial to enjoying FoE. You don't get 11 goods from a completion until level 8. (This works out to about 4800 coins and supplies daily in Late Middle Ages, so handily beats the Clapboard-house equivalency test used re the Statue). Ah yes. Seed Vault Helping Hands Chance. 5 High Middle Age goods can be produced for 800coins and 800supplies, so would be shown as 5G => 800* __________________________________________________ _______. Do some GBs bonuses cancel other bonuses out? It is more an issue of when to level up the wanted great Buildings to some level rather how high. If you are in a 1.9 and have a busy 1.9 thread in your guild then it makes sense to get your Arc raised up to 100+ . EDIT: Here's a link to a well done . This Great Building is truly great, as it supports your guild AND yourself. The daily 6 forge points benefit is harder to quantify. Unlike conventional buildings which require only coins / supplies, Great Buildings have requirements of goods and a full set of blueprints which must be collected before the Great Building can be constructed. You can also enter less than 15 values. Mostly, I will focus on levels greater than 10, since formulas tend not to be correct before that. Much better to build a Zeus and CoA and level them up, less space and more useful attack/defence %. Other than Arc 80 ..I've been using 60. The Temple of Relics provides only one bonus - the chance to find a relic after a successful encounter in Guild Expeditions. If you have one of these, youll want to spend your forge points to advance to later ages as rapidly as possible. I joined FOE as a totally new player and followed your list. Its difficult to figure out exactly how much though, and whether the difference is fair or not. If you dont invest in military buildings early and level them up, you will be a helpless victim in the Progressive era. CASTEL DEL MONTE. Email me direct at dskies at gmail. The average optimal level for nearly all GBs is roughly level 80. many deviations from that. Zeus, CoA and CDM are musts for the PvP player; without those youre just pretending. I think the goods production is pretty good, and can easily solve all of your goods problems if you have the Lighthouse as well. everything else takes a back seat. However I was already at Modern Era when Tomorrow (and the Tower) were released so couldnt benefit. Aachen level 73-75 costs 1244 forge points. My thoughts and suggestions as well. Oracle of Delphi (43.6%, Active Adjusted (AA): 205%) [UPDATED], 6. TA level 59-61 costs 1190 forge points with 1.9 thread. I hope someone could look at my city and help me understand the game better. This building, even at Level 1, provides you with a 60% increase in production and 8 goods from your current age (16 unrefined goods from Modern Era onwards, I'll use the term UAM, which is Unrefined After Modern). However, the placed Great Building is level 0 and it does not give any bonus yet. If you cant afford enough space in your city to have two large GBs, I still slightly prefer the Notre Dame or Hagia Sophia happiness GBs over the Colosseum, but if you get a full set of Colosseum blueprints first, then build it for sure. This means that the value of the output doubles with each age, as the equivalent coin/supply costs would double to produce those goods in a regular building. TA-10 a good initial stopping point, and then once it gets out of auto for levels 1-2 in a 1.9 thread. Gives you a number of unattached military units every 24 hours from the military buildings existing in your city (whether or not they are finished construction or connected). Rain Forest Project (3.25%, AA: 16.3%), Saint Basil's Cathedral (Late Middle Ages). better than that of the Lighthouse, while needing twice as much space, and having a greater initial goods cost. Aid Goods Apr 12, 2022 #3 It is more an issue of when to level up the wanted great Buildings to some level rather how high. GBs that give goods are v helpful. Dskies: I came upon your analysis last month. I am a relatively advanced player there is some variance depending on your playing style, but mathematically, the worst building in the game is clearly the coliseum. An article worth referencing would have a base point rating which harnesses the 6 pillars of success into a basic formula. DSkies (The Brethren on Fel Drangyr) dskies at gmail com, Ty dskies for your time I saved your post for reference. Thats not all. This is also where you can build the Great Buildings. A community to discuss all things Forge of Empires! So, the Colosseum is good, if you are early in the game and can use a happiness GB. Coins Real Ironman: Your use of the Dynamic Tower is superb! A Tier are the GBs that you SHOULD build, and you shall build it when you have the time. ALCATRAZ Very Good/VITAL. Its worthwhile for this alone. Personally, I recommend the Lighthouse and the Hagia Sophia as two of the best GBs in the game (so far, at least). This is can unlock nearly one city expansion per day, which is astounding! Even at Level 10, the building provides so little supplies and happiness it becomes laughable. The Great Building at level 0 is just a construction site and it won't build itself like other buildings. I'd consider not building it at all tbh.. Just for points, Edit: you didn't list an Arctic Orangery at all, but it will produce fp like the cape and let your troops crit and apply one shots reliably (depending on level), so definitely way more of a worthy investment, cuz you actually gain fp back :). Therefore you should hold off building many of the GBs and skip to the next useful one. So the main benefit of those forge points is in donation races when contributing to other Great Buildings it will be significantly easier for you to win first place to get more blueprints and medals that way. Already its common to see people with more than 100 points attack/defense boost. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Once you have more resources than you can use (youll probably only reach this point around Tomorrow Era), then it become smus less useful. This method is the 2nd least time-consuming. St Marks is large (66), provides a better daily Goods output than the Lighthouse, and boosts coin production. Total GB shouldnt be more than these 11. 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