This is because they werent actually allowing the trigger to return fully forward. That they came out with improper assembly itself is a joke. That concerned me because, if it was an old model Cobra, that would be the maximum end-shake we want to see from the factory. Additional shipping cost applies to Alaska and Hawaii. I am completely up front about how big of a fan I am of Colt. I dont have a heavy bullet mold for the 357. Thanks for the review. Theyre a fantastic value. This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. I was really wondering about the new generation. The 178 is classic Elmer Keith. In any barrel length, the tastefully done marks and the finish makes the Python stand out. It is friggin gorgeous. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. The new Python took a pretty big change in the trigger mechanism from the original models. It hardly moves at all. It may have just passed up my pinned barrel 29 Ive been looking for as #1 to get. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. Its my BBQ gun. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! The second issue I have is when you mention price. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. In January of 2020 a new Colt Python rolled out of the factory and it was the No. Accuracy. Double action. Frame Material: Stainless Steel I like and own both revolvers and semi-autos. Never liked Colts trigger action or grip design as much as Smith & Wesson. Great looking revolver! Many folks think that Colt has lost the level of expertise and attention to detail necessary to produce that finish. Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. Colt-PY300168. for all of those who have to have it now folks to buy them, so they There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. pweserge, Im speaking practically. Brand new 2020 Python 4.25 inch. Which is it? Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. I was not able to find a four inch gun and grabbed the first six inch gun I saw. Sure beats some of the plastic guns and ARs which are that price or more. The new 6-inch Anaconda has an unloaded weight of 53 ounces, and an overall length of 13 inches. I stared at that picture for months deciding that I had to own one of those guns. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. Colt should have stuck to the original. , Ive been careful with my money all my life and this is what it gets me. Proved to be very accurate, and fun to shootuntil it wasnt. The new gun is basically a Boa though, even if they are calling it a Python. The Volcanic was basically a lever action pistol. Never had an issue. Yeah, this gun is a hot mess. Heres a corrosive agent (ie, blueing salts) you couuld use for the job: https://du-lite.com/shop/du-lite-3-0-salts/. Nice review. I assume no, but have not seen it stated. Hoping they fix the thing. But Im happy with it. I scrimped and saved and by fall of 81 had enough to pay full price plus sales tax. No doubt about that. I pulled the hammer back, and slowly squeezed the trigger. Semi Autos are cheap, practical and suitable. Ill assume you mean physical structure. Every other round fell either on or between those two extremes. Took about 10seconds with a stone to fix. Well balanced and poised. The Serial Number is under 4000, and it was delivered to my dealer from the distributor one week ago. In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian. A thing is worth exactly what someone will pay for it, and Im glad I ordered early. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. None of us were experiencing any issues at all. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. Height is 7.25 inches. The screws measured between 9 and 10 inch-pounds of torque required to loosen the plates. Not to mention that this is Colt desperately trying to gain its following back after giving most of the civilian market the finger for years. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. Oh and a competitor to the S&W M&P R8, including optic and WML rails (Ruger needs to get on that one too). I have ran a 178 grain hard cast SWC at just over 1340 fps with excellent accuracy to 100 yards. Id love to see it as light as possible. Back in the day I used both eagle and mustang grips, lots of sanding and then a nice finish . Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. It never failed. The FIRST RULE of buying anything new (especially guns) is to wait jwt, thanks for the review. You seem a little giddy in your review. A slight change in grip and trigger guard geometry allows better control firing heavy loads. But aint nothin wrong with some .45 ACP in a good 1911 or a Glock-style pistol (e. g. Ruger SR45). I have to say I was surprised to see Colt bringing the Python back. Seems to me that the Colt market has always been driven by collector and speculative interest, vs. performance for dollars spent. Colt Python Revolver. Good shooting! In double action, the lowest trigger pull of either gun was 8 lbs. 6 gun makes fast double action follow-up shots feel natural. I am cautiously optimistic about the future of Colt. Like from an 80s movie (or Stranger Things) where the trusty, crusty Sheriff ventures into the dark woods with his smokewagon in hand. After the initial release of the Pythons, a few reviewers pointed out some serious reliability issues with the Pythons they received from Colt. Hey, Nanking Nancy, lookee what I got! What you are describing sounds like the exact same defect that I had on a Rossi break-action rifle. Called them today and couldnt get through, as per usual. No one got a brick. Once the gun fires, theres no reason to carefully bring the trigger forward. 606-787-7575. Colt released a few different versions, The Hunter, Silhouette, and 10 Pointer in that barrel length. Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. Serial number range is PY2052XX, and there is already a "U" or "J"marking inside the crane that I remember, so it was supposed to be of the fixed models for the initial issues I believe. The new rear sight is tucked into the gun with the familiar long leaf, terminating with a top screw changing elevation, and the tiny side screw altering the windage via a thin black blade. Yeah, done it. Listen folks, the name of the alloy is stainless not stainnone. I can see where the love of the old pythons come from, but these arent the old guns. Maybe. The shooting hand thumb will find the spur with ease and surety. While Colt limited some options for the new model, they more than made up for it with the improvements. And it looks nice when it is done. Id like to see Colt bring back some variant of a .45 Colt in a double-action, built strongly enough to allow for Ruger-level loads. We are of accord. Got my 686 as an OSP color guard trade in. And then, in 2020, Colt released the best stainless steel revolver theyve ever made. Overall Length: 9.75 in. When you say surface, do you mean the finish, or the material, or the physical structure of it? You sound like you think semi-auto pistols are some kind of high tech new invention. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? Good call Colt, good call. Capacity: 6 rds. All groups were shot in single-action, seated off a bag at 25 yards, and the listed groups are averages of five rounds shot over four shot strings. I was thrilled to find a new Python at Cabelas. I knew they would sell out fast, and that it would likely be quite a while before the Colt marketing department got me a gun to review. Boy, I dont know. As always, I lubed the gun (in this case with the supplied Lucas Oil Gun Lube) prior to shooting. PYTHON USED $3,249.99 The Colt Python is a family of six-round double-action revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. I just hope Colt makes them for a while so all the fan boys can get their fix leaving the rest of us guns we can buy without waiting on a list for months. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. My dad, like many of his generation, would be right to depend on this new Python as much or more than he ever did the older models. After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. There still seems to be some bugs to be worked out. Colt didnt screw it up. We are back to the famed bank-vault lockup of old. But that all goes out the window with hand polishing. I had a fella offer me a straight up trade of a Python for my DW after we shot each others guns at the range. Colt 2020 Python Gen 2 Marks And How To Date The Serial Number. I shoot it better than my g19. So one day in November, I picked up the phone and called Colt. The current 2020 Python is closer to the Ultimate Stainless finish, and far more polished than the base stainless version. Colt brought back the Python in 2020 and it has been consistently selling out since.. They had instead stopped the forward travel right before the last click of the mechanism. Not much risk there. As a person who has worked in very high-end and state of the art modern manufacturing, that ALONE is a huge problem. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. The gun still dry fires in DA and SA. Revolvers obsolete? In single action, the triggers average was 4 lbs 5 oz. Last handgun a man would ever need, anywhere, and look like it belonged on the hip of a Canadian Mounted Patrolman. Finish: Semi-Bright These grips fill a single hand well, finishing just below the pinky of my size-large hand. Colt said that they had started using thread locker as well as tested to see if the side plates would come loose during firing. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. They owned up to that and said that it was their fault. S&W 686 + with that awesome SA trigger by smith and wesson6 3 (7 shot .357) and still only 800 dollarsguess Im just a broke ass Florida Kracker. And I was worried Hartford would screw it all up releasing a sub-standard Python. Wood 2 piece grip. This is a better, more accurate, and better written review than what I have seen at Guns and Ammo or other big gun books. Reliability? The documented problem was that the cylinder would intermittently fail to advance. Blue or brushed stainless. Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. I much prefer a .44 or .45 caliber. Im increasingly puzzled why this crap is there. It meant a little more than most of the guns I review. The main thing here is that Colt is back in the DA wheelgun game. Colt in the past 40 years or so quality control lacks or is fairly non existent,can they be corrected yes but at a price and one shouldnt have to with what colt charges for their product. Yes. pwrserge, obsolesent? Buy Colt Python 2020 ENGRAVED Royal Snake Scale by Altamont 4.25" .357 Mag: GunBroker is the largest seller of Revolvers Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 973467538 . A very nice customer service person told me where my nearest Colt dealer was and said he could have one shipped there for me. Im one of the lucky ones with an original blued piece. I had Ted Blocker leather make an appropriate holster for it. Theres just something about seeing her petite self (with ponytail and shooter cap) holding big gun downrange and sending hot lead onto steel that makes me smile. Rated 4.68 out of 5 based on 31 customer ratings. 15 18 comments Still I want it in Royal Blue as thats the hipster gun owner way. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. On the 4.25 gun, I found the screw a little too loose. Although the 6 model was also described as a service weapon from the earliest catalogs, the 4 model would be described in advertisements as the Police Python when it was released in 1961. Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. Then, in a surprise move, Colt introduced a re-engineered Python last year, in stainless steel only, with either a 4 1/4-inch or 6-inch barrel. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. I wanted this to be my best gun, I wanted to love this gun. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. The Keefe Report: Colt Addresses Python Problems. 5 1/2 barrel. We all hoped. But, I just dont like to pull on the cylinder release. The bullet has long left the barrel by the time your finger is moving out. Colt designed the new Python to be a strong gun, capable of shooting numerous full-magnum rounds over the course of its life. I got my carry license in 1976 and bought a used Trooper MKIII blue 6. I think its a weak mainspring thats mostly to blame (probably did that to simulate the original refined action) and/or a problem with the transfer bar/hammer. Reliability * * * * * Weight: 46 oz. The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. When I look at those Pythons or say something like a Colt Walker I see a freakin canon. I have the 6 inch model. Mine is a safe queen, and will remain that way while I beat the snot out of the rugers. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. I couldnt believe Colt would let this gun out. The cylinder continues to rotate until the bolt drops into the next cylinder notch assuring proper alignment of the chamber, barrel, and firing pin before the hammer is released. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. Love my New Python. As I said in my King Cobra review, my dad carried a stainless Python, so the Python wasnt just some other gun to me. The Python was given the expected Colt blue, with an even finer grade of polish as the last step, to produce the Royal Blue Colt finish. Colt Python 3-Inch Specifications: Caliber: 357 Mag Capacity: 6 round Barrel: 3-inch Overall Length: 8.5-inches Overall Height: 5.5-inches Overall Width: 1.55-inches Barrel Technical: 1:14 LH, 6 Groove Frame: Stainless Steel Finish: Semi-bright Grip: Walnut Sights: Rear, adjustable (windage and elevation); Front, red ramped Yup! MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700). The original Pythons were expensive and genuinely premium pieces, this is just overpriced average (and thats assuming they really have fixed the reliability issues). At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. . When it comes to precision, the new Python easily lives up to the reputation of the original models. Ive been waiting with great anticipation for a new 4 stainless. If you take a look at the King Cobra review, youll know just what the trigger mechanism is on the new Python. Its frankly shocking that they release a revolver with very commonly seen reliability issues and people are trying to handwave it away because theyre so thirsty for a new Python. Theres lots more available travel for the firing pin without the transfer bar in the way. After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. So I can forgive the differences. Customization * * * * * The announcement of the new production Colt Python in 2020 was a surprise for many firearms fans, as the famous snake gun had been out of production since 2005. . . Pubgbet , CHOKEDEE88.COM - . No free cheese. New Smith & Wesson revolvers at the time cost considerably less. Trigger is smooth as glass. Beyond the straight back pull with very little stacking, and a now confirmed consistent weight and feel, the wide serrated trigger shoe completes its cycle without grit or mush. The Python is back! I carry my four inch gun from time to time. The grips, with about 60% of the side surfaces checkered, never slipped or failed in any way. Gonna have nightmares.;). Steel revolvers like this one are just worth the price. The single-action pull of the old Pythons and the OP was 3 poundsclean, crisp and perfect for those wanting to shoot bullseye (which was pretty much the only competition to be found back in 1955, the first year of Python production). I really enjoyed this review. These guns had loose side plates that may have caused the malfunction. I never understood it. Instead, they went with a transfer bar system. The only way to get a double action gun back in the game is to get that trigger forward as fast as possible. That being said, I waited a whole year to make sure that Colt rectified the problem. To be clear, they said I needed to realize this guns(New Pythons) are 100% assembly lined manufactured, they are not tested, have no critical inspections, I would get they next one off the line with no testing or inspection and they would not replace or warranty the gun from there on out. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks The Python is cool. Another exciting aspect and big reason why rosin is gaining popularity is its versatility. When the hammer went fully forward and rested against the receiver, it wasnt pushing the transfer bar far enough and the firing pin was not extending far enough. You asked about holsters; both Galco and DeSantis have holsters for the Python. At $1,499 MSRP (for both barrel lengths), the new Python is way cheaper than the old ones 4.25-inch barreled new Python, Federal 125-grain .357 Magnum, 25-yard bench rest. Bullet molds. Im curious if you still feel this way a year and half later? 5 shot .45 Colt capable of safely launching the Ruger Only loads. But theres only one way to find out. The original model Colt Pythons didnt offer a stainless finish until 1983. Five bullet diameters between farthest-apart holes in .38 caliber cannot result in a 0.9 group as one of your pictures shows. I'm very disheartened about this. Weight: 42 oz. When I got the gun back from the factory the gouges and tool marks were down to scratches and it fired consistently, not accurately. Any one is free to gamble with their funds as they see fit, isnt AMERICA grand,as for myself Ive gambled way too much to continue with any more colt products. These days, high performance JHPs mean that while semi-autos still cant keep up with enormous hunting cartridge revolvers, they are more than good enough to compete against .38 SPL self-defense revolvers. And high-qualityrosinis just that. News, Extras, Handguns, Revolvers. 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