Frank and Sandy Rzucek, and their son Franky, tell CBS4 they have been physically, emotionally and financially exhausted by unfounded claims by conspiracy theorists who believe they played roles . If you look at the autopsy report she has purple round spots on 1 side of her face from the chin to the temple which could be his knuckles from a punch as well as a 1 handed strangulation. Cassie Rosenberg Page 626 They are The People Of The Lie. (Scott Peck). C . I have NO doubt that CW did a choke-hold on his wife from behind or right side, rendering her unconscious while smothering her airwayshe never woke upis why she didnt struggle or stop him. I am new to this case, a couple of months of watching/listening to your videos Nick, and I am now working my way through your books. A persons muscles relax upon death, including the sphincter. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished although decomposing Caucasian female whose appearance is generally I was terrified gravity would wreck my boobs. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. He probably wanted it done quickly and in the dark so he wouldnt have to see anyones faces, anything that might make him doubt what he is doing. Theyd already pulled $10,000 out of Chris 401K to try and get caught up on their mortgage, but they were somehow burning through money like there was no tomorrow. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. I go on youtube and so many parents are killing their kids. Ive wondered if he made her a drink when she got home, a smoothie with some type of alcohol that you wouldnt taste in it to knock her out because she didnt drink. And anyone on this thread acting as if the mother plays any part(or the mistress) for that matter..well you are just as psychotic. Chris Watts is the subject of a new Netflix series called American Murder: The Family Next Door. The two girls were found in oil drums. What about rigormortis? She was not drinking! One thing that was truthful that came out of NKs mouth was that he lied about everything. But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. Areas of bruising, internal. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? A tee-shirt and undies is a Sleeping Uniform for many women, another fact. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. She had a separate closest for her shoes & purses. Amy thoughts on her? 1. Your thoughts? I was married to someone, super attentive dad, husband. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. Or putting her down. But hed then be a full time father leaving him not much time to galavant with NK except when a babysitter came. @Nickhi, in answer to your question about the suitcase she might have been so exhausted and wanting to get to bed right away that she left it downstairs, figuring she would deal with it in the morning. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. On page six of the report in the General Internal Examination findings, it states:- Rigor mortis lasts 8-12 hours. He couldnt get into anyways so I dont know what the plan was gonna be after. Police photos Shanann Was Wrapped in a Sheet & Buried in a Shallow Grave That Watts Dug With a Shovel Police reportsThe crime scene. The carpet was cleaned, and laundry done in the Peterson case. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family.. We cannot have that thing on earth with us. I have always slept with a bra on and I am 43 years old, always. Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. dirty murderer! Chris said that she often went straight to bed without showering after a flight, saying that shed shower and wash bedding to rid it of the airport in the morning. The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. How would you have reacted in her situation? Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. My opinion, when Nicole Atkinson said Shanann was OCD, I think she was using the term loosely, as a description, not a diagnosed disorder. No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. Shannan was a hypochondriac, who was gonna turn her kids into the same. Like you, I was suspicious about the DAs assessment. Also, the fact that he did not want her to come to Colorado with his dad so that maybe she would not be questioned? Then he asks to talk to his dad. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. If you look at other cases where someone is strangled to death, the amount of defensive wounds, including bruises, is extensive. Page 582, 6. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . x, Ive said this before. Its typical that children be smothered as opposed to stabbed etc. Also, I highly doubt Shanann was killed by pulling her down onto her back. Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. Thoughts? He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. Lastly, he lies constantly to the police, why is this self serving story all of the sudden believable? @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? So when he pulls her off theres not one last gasping breath, she dies at that exact moment and theres nothing Chris can do but kill Shannan!!!! Something that might help with perspective is this financial article in which a wife writes in for advice, because her husband has started sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10 . Now remember this would be AFTER strangling Shannan carrying her to their room & putting her in bed, so at least 5 minutes and since it would have taken about 4 minutes for CeCe to die 9 minutes had passed supposedly since Shannan had been in her room. . Why does there always gotta be one of those? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. I had assumed all the way through that he had used a pillow. No one deserves what happened to those kids and their mother-you have issues. I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. Theres a very clear indicator when the children died. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. I am not saying he touched the purse. 3. I dont think I know everything, but I do know more about this case than most. Theyd quietly suffocate no violent confrontation, very peaceful. And then it was turned off. (883931) Full autopsy reports of all 3. Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. This guy had some sort of mental problem. no she was a good mom who looked after her kids! He dug the grave with a shovel. Not a chance she would have run the risk of waking up the children by going into their rooms she knew theyd be fine as shed often said Chris was a good Dad. They didnt do date nights. Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. Hes a piece of crap but make no mistake, they would be alive if not for Shannan. I just dont understand this. Shannan would choke the like out of Watts before she hurt her kids. Have you read the 2000 page discovery? Nick, have any of her docs said she had clinical OCD? I wouldnt throw that out the window. Like you, I believe the children were sedated, and possibly Shanann as well. Thanks! The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. They manipulate, connive and plot. Chris is a monster. Usually when theres a fight while strangulation is occurring the perpetrator uses so much force the hyoid bone is broken; shannans was not. It was already reported that Shannan evacuated her bowels when dying and that is why he took the sheet off, He told police that. Her spouse has a religious obsession/addiction; I think youll see similarities. External bruising may have been caused by the assailant releasing the victim after killing by stranglehold, and the victim falling onto an object which would cause small circular patternation and subsequent bruising. Do not make it more complex than it need be please. Maybe he lost patience with her. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. To do her business? through the skin in heated arguments which are undetectable to the human nose in the same way attraction pheromones are undetectable to our noses ). She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. If CW is the type of father that would never hurt his girls, then his behavior after pulling Shannan off CeCe would be to call 911, try CPR ( he had classes at work) When non murderous parents are confronted with the loss or potential loss of their children they get desperate. Sociopaths/Covert narcissists wreak havoc and(emotional) destruction on those around them without exception. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. Its horrible. And the decision to move Chris out of state as well? True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Areas of bruising, external. Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. Theres really not much to say about this, right? Thanks for making the reports public. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. Hed let her snuggle him that morning. Chris Watts' plan was to make his family disappear. Subdued and buried alive perhaps? God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. In the new clip, the cold-hearted killer is wearing t-shirt, shorts and flip flops as officers secure. The children were accustomed to regularly taking medication; it would have been very simple for CW to simply give them a couple extra pills to swallow while they were relaxing watching TV after their dinner, and once they were sedated, wrap a plastic bag around their heads. Shan'ann, Bella and Celeste Watts 25 Page Autopsy Report | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek CRIME NEWS WATTS KNOX JonBenet MCCANN WM3 PENDING TOOLBOX TCRS YOUTUBE ARCHIVE Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck (as in a Stranglehold) causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain, leading to cerebral hypoxia/ischaemia, anaerobic metabolism, and acidaemia/acidosis (similar to the effects of cardiac arrest on the brain (Longstreth 2001). In the 2000 page report that was released they pose the theory that she may have been asleep while attacked. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. Shannann even said that he was like another person. Then probably went to bed & I guarantee he was in their bed not in the basement & this made her happy. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. From their text messages & hers to friends you can tell he was trying to make her believe they had a chance & things were getting better. @Nick I thought the bedsheets in the bedroom were soiled? Did you mention in your book that Shannan thought her marriage was wonderful and things started changing around the time your Hero Chris Watts started having an affair? She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. Gastrointestinal Tract: She also could not stand Shannan. People with OCD can have obsessions related to a wide variety of things, including losing control, hurting others, unwanted sexual thoughts, and many more. When youre pregnant you do, breasts get tender and the extra support helps. The DA explained that it is due to decomposition and the body breaking down. At the end of the day there are no good reasons to commit murder, especially of ones own flesh and blood, but there may be valuable lessons to learn from figuring out how this could have happened. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. Please, if he was worried about the kids, then why did he kill them as well. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. You see any documents with that diagnosis? A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. 1. Its good that youre trying to demonstrate this and see it through. He was adamant that no no nothing like that happened but the female agent is sympathetic & is using a technic which is to put the blame on another person & make him feel less at fault. And the fact that theyd had a bankruptcy in 2015 apparently hadnt helped her wise up at all. Chris went to an oil well job site to check out it. Thats why no defense wounds. He snapped and I was terrified of him. I remember one video where shes tasting one of the Thrive bars and effusing over how delicious it is, while one of her daughters cries with hunger in the background, and ShanAnn tells the poor child, No, you cant have this this is Mommys. https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, She wasnt OCD, and even if she was, what does it matter? Im convinced that he did the same to Shanann. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave." The cause of death was. Meanwhile, the part of your brain that regulates involuntary functions is shutting down. If she was murdered in bed, why isnt there any evidence of that? Addition. Again, less bad publicity for LeVel. Shan'ann seemed to have a fairly mild case. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. He is a monster. ~KSmallz. read befor comment on subjectit is well describedecomposition did this. Chris was photographed head to toe & didnt have one mark on his body consistent with somebody fighting for their life from being strangled. Even with Bella, no screaming brain said , this is your Bella!! This behavior is opposed to the dignity and respect of another person. Page 463 Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. Thats a harsh indictment to a woman who cant defend herself. It was the early hours of the morning, she was pregnant, fed up with airport holdups and storms, and tired. I lived with one. If you read through the autopsies very well you will see that the oldest girl, Bella, actually bit her tongue several times and had many injuries in her mouth. Bellas stomach contained 75 milliliters of green-black fluid, the report states, which was most likely from the oil tank she was placed inside. Therefore your theory is not valid. On page one of the report in the list of Diagnoses, it states:- I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. Not as bright. She was always busy. Nickole called Christopher Watts and requested he come home and check on Shanann. They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. Mommys earned this. It seems likely she even planned to use her pregnancy and 3rd child in service to her MLM addiction see https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/. This was the last time she was seen alive. They obviously didnt watch the K9 body cam footage! It was on an automatic answering thing. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. No other way to put it. He kind of giggled & said like you mean like on TV like a magician. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. A monster! Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. Maybe body positioning and gravity? It doesn't appear that the autopsy did a very thorough check. Shannan wasnt answering phone calls or text and missed her doctors appointment. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? I did. Late stage of pregnant. Its actually not uncommon. Have you interviewed anyone for your books? The entire thing is horrific, but theres a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding going on several people mentioning the hyoid bone being in tact or the lack of patechia but I can tell you from experience- Ive seen severe patechia in a sick womans eyes and also in a drowning victim (age 2)- but in all 3 bodies Ive observed during transport or autopsy- none had patechia and none had thier hyoid disturbed- Ive only ever seen it broken in hanging/suicide cases or once in an auto accident that involved crushing injuries to the head and neck. He says with a halphazard yeah she was like for sure gone, she was blue, and no beats, no breaths, nothing. I cant believe the police let them stay in there. Bellas covers were pulled off and she was just lying in bed. Shananns mother Sandra Rzucek told police she suspected foul play and suspected Chris, saying he was acting weird and out of the ordinary. I havent finished reading the Discovery yet (just at the freaky prison fan mail/hate mail) but I havent read anything yet about any DNA testing of the sheets? He said they had been talking about separating for a few weeks. D: Oil, water and sludge debris was found in her stomach. She should have seen my house when my kids were little. I own this site, and have posted hundreds of blogs, and written 4 books on the Watts case. I think His story is believable. In the autopsy Shannan was found to be still wearing a bra. He wanted out, didnt want the baby., and took the cowards way. What information to that extent do you expect *an autopsy* to provide?? Her clothes were even coordinated by colour in the closet. Bella was face up in the oil tank. Terrifying to think he could have put them in the tanks still alive but incapacitated. I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! It was almost too much to absorb at one reading. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. If he straddled her chest, and pins her arms down with his knees, she would have been incapacitated. There is no sympathy for that psychopath period. He had a schedule and he was sticking to it. I know it is morbid but I do hope that CW gets his just desserts in jail and those other inmates show him some of the terror that his beautiful girls would have experienced in the last moments of their life. Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. Watts isnt a trained jujitsu. LEE: Depends on sometime we find saliva, large amount of saliva, nasal secretion, mixed with small amount of blood on the pillow. I think despite her bravado, she had insecurities just like everyone else, with both herself, and her roles as wife and mother AND someone working in an MLM. Chris only saw things with one lense. Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. He organized the bins in the basement. Good to have a former forensic detective around. Its something so outside my wheelhouse that I didnt even know it could me done. Sounds like a good theory except that Bella did fight for her life as the coroner explained by the hole in her frenulum, the biting of her tongue & insides of her cheeks. https://www.medicaldaily.com/what-forensic-scientist-doesnt-tell-you-7-postmortem-responses-dead-body-314404. I love the way people just make things up and state it as fact, even when it completely opposes evidence in the case. Watts was arrested on August 15, 2018. Theres just too much, including motive, he wanted a life with Nicole with no disturbances. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. Its a matter of body position. If Im interpreting the autopsy correctly he effectively smothered and strangled at the same time but I never see this mentioned anywhere. I guess we would never know and it wouldnt make any difference on his sentence. On the police cams you can just see hi. Scares me honestly. Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. I have to wonder if somehow she woke up and saw what happened to her Mommy. Seriously? And fyi, I am not going to use the actual pictures/videos in my project. I meant three perfectly formed humans. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. Throw it away? They then start putting the idea in his head what happened, did one of the kids die & Shannan killed the other one & herself? Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range Unless I missed it? She loved her kids more than he did, obviously!! I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). I have come to think of her OCD tendencies as a bit like the way she was around her kids. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! Or do they just know? Utter Rubbish! Quick as law enforcement were to respond to the crime, by the time they recovered the remains of the two little girls, they had been chemical altered beyond recognition. Explains why Shanann didnt fight back. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? Chris said: I freaked out and I did the same thing to f****** her. And to think CW called a co-worker @ 5pm to tell him that he would be going directly to the oil battery site and told the co-worker he didnt need to. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. Her death was the only one categorized as violent by the coroner Regarding oil in the stomach, just a thought, but wasnt Bella face up and CeCe face down when removed from the tanks? Even the few days shannan was gone. When asked if they were going to find any marks on her during his confession he said I dont think so and when asked why he said it was because she didnt fight back because I was in such a rage Tell me how that makes any sense at all? Before I forget one glaring mistake in the Discovery by the CBI when they did the forensic search they said they checked for traces of blood where the cadaver dogs had indicated, including the top of the basement stairs near the mudroom. The kids had two wack jobs for parents. Pee and Poo Thanks! Her neck muscles had been bruised and the manner of death was deemed a homicide. http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, But Celeste didnt have oil her stomach. No, it doesnt. If Chris had not had the affair, he would not have killed his family! Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? Now thats one of the main ways that most lay people think of first but he was coming up with these weird ways but distancing himself from strangling. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? A trillion to bullshit thats what they are!!! There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. The DA mentioned that. GREELEY, Colo. Authorities released Monday the autopsy reports of Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3. It just seems to me that Bella would actually have had to swallow the oil to get it into her stomach. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. What do you think about the 8 inch thief hatch, and the narrowest section of Ceecees hips being 9.5 inches, according to the autopsy? Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. Back? Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. Take Jodi Arias she lured him into a shower and made sure she was armed and he was naked, vulnerable and unsuspecting when she attacked him. Not a single drop of blood on the bed sheets, and she winged him apparently with her nails on his neck. I hope this is okay, Nick the way the financial counselor walks the wife through her options is important to understand and doesnt appear to detract from your sites mission and goals. I once witnessed where someone used Tequila in a hookah instead of water. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. Mark, that is really interesting! Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. The cadaver dogs noted no presence of bodies in the basement however. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. 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