Brown shoes. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde He died in prison last month aged 75. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. Glenn Flothe, AST. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. Apparently youre bothered by this? CINDY: Uh huh. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. So he shows up Sunday night, then. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. CINDY: Thats it. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? Your email address will not be published. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. He was right to worry, state officials later said. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? Required fields are marked *. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. CINDY: OK. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. CINDY: Um hmm. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? I saw him the next day, Sunday. Facebook gives people the power to. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: How did you know that? CINDY: The garage was opened. He was 75 years old. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. CINDY: On. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. When will it be released? Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. (Sound of pages turning. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) Normally, people try avoiding that. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. It had a long barrel. CINDY: The same person. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? FLOTHE: Um hmm. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. Email khopkins@adn.com. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. Your email address will not be published. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. I just want to do everything. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. CINDY: Same. For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. CINDY: Yeah. Hudgens: That was great. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? CINDY: He approached me. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. CINDY: Yep. This is a very intense film. They look at them in a very specific way. Required fields are marked *. Way down on the floor. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. FLOTHE: Hmm. FLOTHE: OK. Just him by himself. One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. CINDY: OK. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? FLOTHE: OK. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. You know, I was supposed to meet him. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. So its early in the morning It was a red scar Others have never been found. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We all have the same needs. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. CINDY: Um hmm. No problem. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Yes, directly. CINDY: Uh huh No comments have so far been submitted. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO It was smooth. And it may not even be in there. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. Learn how your comment data is processed. CINDY: The automatic opener. The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. Were the lights on or off? FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. (inaudible) Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. Cause that was the smallest he had. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. CINDY: Uh huh. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. Hes amazing. CINDY: Nope. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. Were all connected. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. He was really sweet. Robert claimed that the teen was trying to blackmail him; he convinced a buddy to give him an alibi, and that was that. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Im not going to help you do that, all right? The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. It had never crossed her mind. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Hudgens: Were shooting for either late December or the beginning of next year. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. 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